Monday, May 21st 2012
The latest fleet news
Local authorities in Scotland have started to introduce the all-electric Nissan LEAF to their fleets in a bid to cut carbon emissions and improve air quality. NHS Tayside, Dundee City Council, Perth & Kinross Council and Dumfries and Galloway Council have [...]
The Vauxhall Ampera is to become the first range-extended model in the UK to join a car club. Vauxhall’s newly-launched model is to join the world’s biggest car sharing network as part of a six month pilot partnership with Zipcar. [...]
Classic cars will not be required to undergo MoT tests under new rules effective from this November. Vehicles manufactured before 1960 will be exempted from the MoT test from November 18 2012; a move intended to reduce costs for owners. [...]
Lex Autolease and Hertz have struck a deal to deliver a replacement vehicle programme for Speedy Services. The partnership will provide Speedy Services with exclusive access to 18 short term rental Ford Transit 350 LWB dropside vans, purpose built to [...]
British Car Auctions’ Peterborough team has been awarded the first ever award from Inchcape Retail for outstanding achievement. The new quarterly award will be presented by the Inchcape Retail franchise dealer group to the remarketing centre or team that goes [...]
A new website from Volkswagen Fleet Services aims to slash the time and expenditure of creating company car policies. Redesigned in response to customer focus groups last year, VW says its fleet website has been given a shake-up to reflect [...]
Skoda’s Fleet Sales team strapped on their trainers for charity recently as they endured a 100km slog as part of the London 2 Brighton Challenge. Leaving the start line in Richmond at 10.45am on Saturday 12 May, the six-strong team [...]
‘Be prepared for the unexpected’; this was the simple message from Transport for London at an FTA event for freighters and transport companies operating in and around the capital during the 2012 Olympics. Speaking at the third and final Freight [...]
A number of charities have come together to form a new coalition in a bid to resist the introduction of 80mph motorways. Led by road safety charity Brake, the coalition – comprising the Campaign for Better Transport, Greenpeace, Roadpeace, Road [...]
Car leasing software provider Sofico has been accepted as an associate member of Tokyo Automotive Leasing Association (TALA). Belgium-based Sofico – which specialises in software solutions for automotive finance, leasing and fleet management companies – has become the second non-Japanese [...]
Morrison Utilities and Amey are the latest companies to secure accreditation under the Freight Transport Association’s Van Excellence scheme. The two civil engineering businesses have successfully demonstrated that their fleet management and compliance systems can meet the Code of Van [...]
Vauxhall is to introduce a more fuel efficient 1.4L petrol engine to some of its commercial vehicles. Available in L1H1 and L2H1 body types, the new 95PS Euro 5-compliant Combo unit comes with start/stop technology, returning 40.3mpg and achieving CO2 [...]
What’s becoming increasingly and demonstrably clear is that the margin of the specialist and exotic cars superiority over the cars that most people drive is far less marked than it was some years ago. The ability gap has shrunk and will continue to shrink until that vast chasm is just a hairline crack. Twenty years ago a fragile Lotus Esprit would do 145mph, carry two people and a toothbrush each and only run on a billiard table. Today you can have a roomy estate car that will take five, plus the contents of their potting sheds, do more than 140 mph and traverse medium-difficult, off-road terrain, thanks to all wheel drive: and in super comfort too in a particularly safe environment - thanks to Saab having based their safety work on findings from ’real life’ crashes which they investigate in depth. It is, therefore, no wonder that it gets a maximum five stars for safety. This is Saab’s 9-3X - a trendy Sport Wagon for those who occasionally might want to do mild off-road forays down a forest track, perhaps. But reassuringly, here is a relatively affordable car at £25,995, with a brilliant combination of performance, handling and ultimate road holding that provides all-year round mobility for those of us likely to encounter snow and ice each winter, combined with the kind of handling characteristics so desirable in a quick machine, when the sun is out and the voices in your head urge you on to wickedness. They do say, that in The Republic of Freedonia, a fellow could pilot his 9-3X at 140mph - but thankfully, in the safe haven that is Coalition Britain, any such seditious thinking is gradually being expunged from our brains by the Ministry of Nastiness and Total Control. (You know it makes sense). And so it was that with a spring in my step and a false identity in my wallet I set off to put the 9-3X through its paces: secret Shropshire roads beckoned. If ever there was any doubt that one could aspire to heights of motoring pleasure without going to extremes of elaborate specification, that doubt was dismissed by the Saab 9-3X. There is a feeling of reassuring solidity as you close the door. Inside you find lots of space, a driving position that is outstandingly comfortable (and highly adjustable electrically) and seats (heated and cooled) that support in all the right places to make long journeys a pleasure. Rear seaters reassured me that all was tickety boo for them too and that they were comfortable for the duration. As for ergonomics - all is clearly planned with well laid out switchgear and instrumentation. But then what else would you expect from a company that made fighter jets and was entrusted with the defence of the Swedish realm.(Now, of course, Saab has been sold by General Motors and is under full ownership of Dutch sportscar brand Spyker - with big changes probably afoot). So, after a trencherman’s lunch in Ludlow I roused the 4 cylinder 2.0 litre 210bhp turbo engine back into life and realised that here was an invigorating and interesting unit from the masters of turbocharging. This excellent engine is smooth and torquey with no turbo lag so that you can cover ground quickly, safely and rewardingly without overusing the six gears. The Saab felt rapid between bends as we pressed on and yet the slightly increased ride height over the two wheel drive 9-3 meant that there was a little more body roll than expected - but it was never unsettling. When pushed along country roads it copes with everything it encounters with equanimity. That excellent ride quality though, always ensures that a happy trip is had by all. Despite hard driving on twisty A roads, a fast crossing of The Long Mynd and some experimentation with the cars off road capability on a friends farm in Wales, fuel consumption was surprisingly good at near 35mpg overall. This particular Saab surely serves you with a judicious blend of dignity and aplomb to suit any discerning motorist, to say nothing of serving a competent spell, wherever necessary, as a high speed cruiser or an occasional venturer off-road.
How seductive are the memories of times long gone: of times we might have lived through. So an historical perspective is useful when attempting to place a legend in context. The Saab name is legendary for various reasons. You’ll probably recognise the name for the values attached to its rallying history in the hands of the great Erik Carlson, Stig Blomqvist and Per Eklund. Of one thing we can be sure - Saab’s products were quite amazing in their day and thankfully, they still are. Having been thrown a safety net and saved from oblivion by Dutch supercar maker Spyker, when they bought the brand from General Motors, the question is, ’will Saab now soar to new success or struggle?’ The new 9-5 in the flesh looks slick, sleek, well groomed and - thankfully - unmistakably Saab, despite having been designed during G.M. ownership and using the new sophisticated Insignia platform - which means there’s lots of space inside to stretch out in the tastefully appointed interior with it’s quality fixtures and fittings. From the outside discreet, understated and confidently adult, it’s the very antonym of ostentatious: an imposing and dignified looking car well able to do the job for which it was designed. At rest it oozes poise, purpose and most of all, that indefinable something, without which any car is a mere lump of soulless metal. So - I’m pleased to report that even in these dour days of the economy Saab equals visual appeal and driver satisfaction, which surely will equal ’success’. And that success is so important because upon it might rest the survival of the marque. The 9-5 range starts at £26,695 for the 1.6 petrol turbo and rises to £37,795 for the 4WD 2.8 V6 300bhp twin turbo. Tested with the 160PS 2.0 litre turbo diesel with optional 6 speed automatic transmission and in Vector trim which gives such luxuries as heated leather and textile seats, climate control and cruise control and costs £28,035 - this version is proving to be most popular. Understandably so because it offers a good combination of performance and economy for such a big car. 130mph+ is attainable and an overall fuel consumption figure of 41.5mpg is quoted for the automatic. Make no mistake - this is a very good car indeed, but in some areas it’s slightly behind the likes of Mercedes ’C’ Class and Audi’s A6. There isn’t quite the level of refinement you get with the German marques but that would only really be noticed in ’back to back’ comparison drives. The turbo diesel performs very well indeed and with Saab’s mastery of turbocharging, there’s walloping torque where it matters, enabling safe and rapid overtaking in situations where the competition might be compromised. You do know it’s a diesel though, when working the engine hard and there’s just a hint of ’gruffness’ under strong acceleration if truth be told - not enough to discourage such use, but maybe enough to give a nit-picking anorak with rabbit ears something to latch on to. Ride quality is good enough to swoosh you sweetly along - but it’s not quite ’magic carpet’. It’s a well-controlled ride - and it needs to be, because this big Saab weighs over 1.5 tons. When the roads turn twisty big saloons often become bloaty: but not this one. It’s hardly balletic but it’s certainly capable of cleanly and confidently whisking you through bends at a fair old pace. The new 9-5 is a thoroughly modern car. Clean lined, simply drawn and well engineered. Add roominess, total practicality, top build quality and good performance and economy and I’m confident we’re looking at a winning coalition. Saab will survive.
Never thought I would have a Saab. Just sold the wife’s 2001 SLK and bought the Saab , mainly because they had knocked 10 grand off! What a good decision. Lovely and relaxing to drive. Spec included metallic paint, leather heated seats, cruise, alloys, computer and various other nice touches. The car looks great, roof up or down (OK - better down!). A similar spec Audi A3, which looks dinky in comparison, would have been 7K more! At just over 19K, for a brand new well kitted 4 seater convertible with proper pop up rear protection (hideous A3 and Mini rear hoops) the Saab is just unbeatable.
Had the car a couple of months now. Black metallic, with black leather. Drives well, looks good with the top down, a real head turner in fact. Those comfy seats everyone talks about are not at all! They hurt my back so much I have had to buy a lumber roll! Other than that OK.
Managed to convince the dealer to let his demonstrator go after just 1800 miles. He couldn’t say no as it was the only TTiD they had. This car is great. The engine has more than enough torque to climb hills like they were going the other way. Mid range is fantastic. It’s quiet and refined. As many mention, the seats are very comfortable. The face lift edition comes with positioning light bars above the headlamps which set it off nicely. Plenty of room in all positions. Feels like it will just drive and drive up and down motorways all day long - which is exactly what I got it for. And I dont care what anyone says - get a tuning upgrade to take it to 200hp / 430nm, put some lowered springs on it, a hirsch aftermarket rear spoiler and it will turn heads and go like no other 2 l diesel in its it class. Swedish sexy and cool. The Koenigsegg conection with Saab now will see the aero x a reality in 5 years...........long live the Saab!
This is the second Saab I have owned and so far have never experienced any mechanical problems. Recently I have had a serious operation and the car has been garaged for seven weeks. I took it out last week and it fired up first time and drives as smoothly as it ever did. I am extremely satisfied with this car. Its roomy, rock solid, safe and overtaking in second and third gears is reassuring on A roads. I like the fact that its got a unique layout and It fits neatly between the pricey German cars and the rest.
Taking advantage of GM (Saab) 3-day test drive I had the pleasure of a 1200 mile roadtrip in a 9-3 Aero convertible. I was utterly smitten by this car; looked amazing roof up or down (mine was Jet Black with premium Parchment leather); performance from the 2.8 V6 was brisk, lots of space both front and rear for 4 adult passengers. Roof operation is a joy to watch. Only negative points:- 1) lots of buffeting for the rear passengers with the roof down, need to keep it below 40mph for comfort. 2) fuel economy although what do you expect for a 2.8V6 Turbo. 3) need to be very careful how you load the boot if you’ll be using the roof, there is only a sticker advising you what areas to avoid meaning possible embarrassment when operating the roof if your luggage is in the way.
Recently bought this 9-3 Sportwagon 1.9Tid because there was £9,750 off a pre-reg at my local dealers. Wow! I loved the last one (2007), but this is a different car again. The drive is more positive, the engine so quiet that no-one thinks it’s a diesel. Economy is good. Also sympathise with Dave in Cumbernauld because the paint on this car is so much better than the last one. Dave, if you are experiencing loads of scratches try cleaning your car with Showroom Shine from Idealworld.tv. Gives you a surface like glass and protects - also saves you washing the thing every week. Oh yes - and it was made for carrying Ikea furniture!!
Had this car for two months now, what a sheer delight to drive, great looks, acceleration is amazing for 1.9 TTDI engine, mid range torque impressive, very comfortable, safe, 45 mpg average according to onboard computer, great spec. Recommend leasing because of rapid depreciation rate. Only one complaint - pretty poor steering lock compared to other cars I’ve driven.
Have been driving my 9-3 convertible (Vector) for a couple of months now. It’s a real attraction on the roads and am pleased with my purchase so far. Very quiet with roof up and good torque.
I rejected the Saab 9-3 Convertible after two months and sent it back. It had a series of electrical faults to the side lights, air bags, windows and stereo, then the engine didn’t start. The dealer and Saab said that the faults were not recorded in the car’s computer, so there were no faults to fix. How convenient! Saab are building an unreliable, cheap and nasty car and selling them for �26K. You’d be better off with a Kia Picanto for �6K - at least they start. We’ve just ordered an Audi A4 Cabriolet instead and gone with a real premium brand this time. Our other car is a Jag X-Type which is fast, economical, great to drive and utterly reliable. Would never get another Saab.
I’ve just got my Vector 93 Convertible and the new shape is a real looker. A great drive, comfortable and fun; a great car.
I have driven Toyota’s for seven years, but the 9-5 salloon vector sports Tdi is the most wonderful car to drive. The leather seats are so comfortable and the seats can be heated at the touch of a button. On the motorway the 9-5 is a pleasure to drive and the headlights are very effective. I would have given the 9-5 Vector sports 150 Tdi an even higher rating if the interior was not let down by saab using too much plastic. The glove box is quite flimsy. Nevertheless the car represents great value for money. I am also confident that after driving 700 miles my lower back will be fine. Congratulations to Saab on producing a car that presents the right image in a challenging market place.
Enjoyed the drive, quick but not with the harsh suspension my BMW has. The BMW suspension is great to drive round corner but is annoying in everyday life. Saab brings a very good blend of both and without the yob-ish image when pulling up to see customers.
I have real mixed feelings over this car. The engine blew up after 6months and less than 25k on the clock due to excessive fuel during DPF regenerations. The engine was rebuilt at no cost (but lots of hassle) to me. The intercooler then blew out 6 months later and this time the whole engine compartment was pretty much replaced (again at no cost to me). With the Hirsch 20bhp upgrade, this car pulls in 200bhp and 430Nm torque, it handles well (but not great and is twitchy at times), but as an ex-demonstrator it is laoded with extras and is great fun to drive at speed cross-country. With Saab looking like going bust (again!) this is one car that some people might be tempted to pick up second hand. My advice is to be careful picking your model, the diesels really don’t like constant town driving, but can be more fun than some of the German/Japanese marques. It’ll also keep up with them, if not beat them. MPG can vary a lot but I’m always 40+MPG and usually in the 50s or even low 60s.
Shockingly bad! I had nothing but trouble with the car over the three years that I leased the vehicle. The engine and auto gearbox was replaced at 17k eight months old. Although done under warranty, I was without but still paying for the car for around 10 weeks in total. The car’s electrical system stopped working at 38k needed replacing including - I was told - the ECUs. I will not be buying another Saab after this experience. I am just glad that it went back before the warranty expired. The only positive that I would give the car was that it had good motorway slip road performance along with good overtaking performance. However you would need deep pockets to keep one on the road post warranty. After liking/wanting a Saab for many years, I now have a bitter taste. Shame for such a lovely looking car.
Having come from a line of Vauxhall Omega’s I was dissapointed with the harder ride and some road noise at low speeds but this was overcome early on by acceleration (albiet a slight flat spot from standing start) and up to 54 mpg on a motoway trip. Having done 10000 miles of the 20000 on the clock I am very pleased. Originally quoted £500.00 plus for the 2nd year service, noted that first service items are duplicated in the 2nd year and it says plus these items in the manual, are they charging me twice.?? Block exemption will prevail, I will go to a non franchise reputable dealer. I live in south Bucks.
This car is powerfull enough in its normal life, but add a super chip and suddenly you have a real quick monster on your hands, 232bhp and over 500kn3. Still gets 54.5mpg and can just about tear any other car off the motorway. I love it and will only change for either a BMW 335d or Jag XF S.
Bought my 07 Vector 1.9TiD in Feb, as we had always fan cied one! Love it in the good weather, with roof down. Climate control good too. It is very comfortable and surprisingly responsive. Good fuel economy (39 ish mpg) better on long run. Feels very solid and well made. No faults so far.
I’ll be honest, you have to work hard to earn 5 stars. However, overall it is a really nice car. Like another reviewer, the paint finish has been a bit iffy. My tailgate had to be repainted under warranty, as the paint started to bubble after 20K miles. Seat lumbar adjuster collapsed and was replaced under warranty - just! I do very much like Saabs, I had a 900 turbo previously and that was a rocket ship. This one is very good, but a little bit soft on cornering; tried a 320d and that was a lot tighter, but more expensive and awful in wet /snow. I do like the mileage, ca. 45mpg. Comfortable seats, but the light uphostery is easily soiled and difficult to clean! Slightly claustrophobic, but I am 6’2", so even though headroom is good, the cabin feels a little too enclosed. Overall though very good so far (30K miles).
I purchased my 57 plate Saab 93 Convertible 1.9TiD Vector Auto from new in November 2007, first of the face lifted models with the L.E.D front lights. I opted for metallic black with cream & black leather seats. I ticked most of the options boxes with the exception of Sat/Nav. (How do car manufacturers justify a £1,500 / £2,000 price tag when you can pick one up for less that £100 these days..?) I bought a Tom Tom for £280 and went on holiday to Mexico with the money I saved. Three and a half years down the line and after 50,000 miles, it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I chose the Vector over the Aero as I was happy to trade off some of the performance in return for a softer suspension as I spend more time cruising down the Motorway than hurling it round corners, although it does rise to the challenge when driven vigorously and handles surprisingly well for its size when I do throw it about. There is an element of turbo lag from a standing start but the 6-speed auto box is silky smooth and I’ve wiped the grin off many a boy racers face once the turbo kicks in. Its mid-range grunt is superb and I will never get tired of how easily and quickly it will accelerate from 50 to 80 on a Motorway leaving the others in it’s wake. The seats are incredibly comfy and the driving position is spot on. Last week I drove from Blackpool to Bournemouth then onto Brighton then back to Blackpool all in the same day. It was an 18hr round trip and I averaged 47.5 mpg and arrived back in Blackpool feeling fresh and relaxed. The roof, which is lined on the inside, is well insulated with little wind noise, even when hurtling down the Motorway at 80mph. It’s very easy to forget during the cold wet winter months that you’re actually driving a convertible. Although, with heated seats and a powerful heater, not even the British winter will stop you from dropping the roof and turning a mundane journey into a pleasurable drive. And should it start to rain then simply press the button and watch the fully automatic roof close in 22 seconds flat. The roof can even be opened and closed whilst the car is moving providing you stay under 19mph. This has saved my embarrassment many times when the lights have turned green quicker than expected and caught me with the roof half open. Believe me, 22 seconds can seem like an eternity when your holding up the traffic, as anyone with a BMW 3 Series or Mercedes CLK will tell you, as both cars require you to be at a total stop before allowing the roof to operate..! It’s hard to look cool when you’re being honked at by angry drivers. Not a problem in the Saab, simply close it as you go. In summery, I love the car and I’m seriously considering buying another Vector but this time opting for the 1.9 Twin Turbo Diesel version which should solve the turbo lag at a standing start and give a little bit more power. I do have a few suggestions though if anyone from Saab should read this. 1. Remove the pop up door locks! Nobody uses them and they ruin the line of the car when the roof is down. If you own a Saab convertible then you’ll know exactly what I mean. How many times have you leant your arm on top of the door and accidently locked yourself in? 2. Add a ’Heated Steering Wheel’ to the options list (BMW 3 Series Convertible) 3. Add a ’Neck Scarf’ to the options list (Mercedes E Class Convertible) And finally, why can’t we have the option of closing the roof with the remote control as well as opening it. I know it was disabled for the American market because a few of them got their heads stuck in the mechanism. We are British and know better than to stick our heads in a car whilst the roof is closing..!!!
Just as GM seems to be in two minds what to do with Saab, so I’m in two minds about their latest 9-3, the 2.0T XWD. On the plus side, I find the styling still refreshingly different, well crafted, and a cut above the rest even as competitors have moved on. I feel the same about the general aesthetic of the interior too, with its elegant solidity so evocative of Scandinavia. And, for me, the 9-3 remains a thoroughly decent drive, enhanced in this version with an AWD system that seems so well matched to the ethos of all that Scandinavian cars are about. But. It is old and expensive. The benefits that GM brought, with access to technology and money came with even bigger drawbacks. And the main drawback is the convoluted management and indecision that means that Saab were only able to release this car several years after they could have and should have. It may be decent, but the next generation, superior (at least mechanically speaking. The less said of the styling etc the better) Insignia is already available for less money. Trying to sell older equipment at a higher price really is not in keeping with the Scandinavian ethos. That said, if you want a car this size with an AWD system that works reasonably well, that is decent in all other respects, and has style to boot, then the Saab 2.0T XWD is really still the only way to go. It is unlikely to change the minds of those who have never really considered a Saab, but if you are a Saab fan, there are legs in the brand and in this 9-3 yet.
This was my 3rd Saab convertible. The combination of the new 93 with the twin turbo V6 should of made this a great car. It was very upsetting to see that this car turned out to be the worse car I have ever had, (and at 34K the most expensive). The trim kept coming off, the seats were as non-Saab as possible (uncomfortable) and it was unbearable to drive except for the very short journeys. There was so much noise coming from it I had to have the radio on in an attempt to drown out the rattles and squeaks. I have experienced better quality with Christmas cracker toys!!! There was a major problem with the car which the dealer (who had just changed hands) refused to do anything about unless I was going to pay £1000 upfront. The final insult was when the 3 years was up and I discovered that it was sold on a personal loan and not a PCP as the first 2 were so it cost me £300 to get rid of a 3 year old 15,000 mile car that I had paid 33 x £575 plus 2.5K deposit; the biggest waste of my money ever!!! Until Saab make sure their dealers are up to it , I dont think there is much hope or future for the brand.
Strengths: Character. Build quality. Allround drivability. Capability on roads covered with snow or ice. Very comfortable. Safety (have 3 small children). The wife sees the car as a "sensible choice" - The father gets a very sporty and capable "family car" (Vs equivalent booooring diesel MPV’s and SUV’s..). As a second hand car I’m personally of the impression that no other marque out there gives even closely as much car for as litle money! Weakness: Well, as with most US intervention, the products suffer. GM has exploited the Swedish technology and build quality, and payed back with typical US cheap and nasty plastic! This may work for the US market, but surely has done no good for marqu-building in Europe! To make it even worse, they put on those nasty "Dame-Edna" glasses! I wonder who was in charge of the design department at that stage??! Anyway, you can now get them changed in original bodycolour at Abbotracing. Summary: Saab 9-5 Aero versions are uniqe in what they offer. Yes, there are more luxurious cars, faster cars, better equipped ones, but they are also more expensive, especially second-hand, BUT what are you actually paying for? One of the biggest critiques towards the new generation 9-5 when introduced in 2006 was that it was not handling as sharply as its BMW and Audi rivals. Seriously! What’s referred to here is borderline track racing, with luxury family cars! And the margins are minimal! The Aero is with no question a sporty car and more capable than 95% of all the other family-estates out there. It is being sporty, representing great building quality, has tons of space, is safer than most cars at its age, has all the equipment you actually need (Vs paying for lots of useless gatgets - which will break sooner or later and devalue the car.) But most of all it is representing the Scandinavian essence, which is a sence of functional understatement. Why? Because we have no need to shout out that we’re capable. We know for ourselves, and that is enough ;-) It’s easy to overlook it in the pressence of all the "bling" and shouty cars out there. With the Aero you have to stop and actually do a bit of thinking before you consider buying one. If your after quality and the joy of drivingexperience, I higly recomend it! If your goal is status, impressing the neighbour or being staggered by presence, then there are plenty of alternatives out there. Still, you may ask yourself why most buyers of this car happens to be architects, doctors/dentists, lawyers, engineers etc ;-)
I have had a totally faultless year. The car looks good and drives superbly and I would recommend the car to anybody.
I’ve always had a thing about Saab’s, always wanted one. When the time came to buy a new car I thought that I should finally give in to the urge and make the dream a reality. Unfortunately the reality was a disappointment, the saloon is very noisy and lacking in refinement. I was also unimpressed by the Saab dealership, they were unhelpful and surly. The car seemed dated by modern standards and after only 16,000 miles I had to replace the front tyres. The cost of any service on the car is extortionate! I wanted to get rid but have since found out that the 9-5 is now only worth 40% of it initial cost price and this is dropping every time I drive it. I have to face up to the fact that I made a mistake and bought with my heart rather than my head. I also did not do enough research before buying, I strongly recommend that any buyer purchases a couple of magazines and has a look at the residual values plus looking at driver’s opinions on sites such as this before making a costly financial mistake similar to mine. I will never buy another Saab again. This was a case of a dream turning into a nightmare.
I love it, easily a match for the BMW 3-Series and X-Type but without the price tag. I test drove all three and went with the 9-3 as I felt it looked a smart motor and handled as well as the other two. Grap a bargain!
I have had the 95 for a week now, it only had 100 miles on the clock when the delivery driver left it at my office.The spec was good with all the safety functions you need including parking sensors as standard, The seating was excellent not to firm with great manual adjustment, on the road the torque was impressive with power on tap even at low speeds in 5th gear, GM have a good motor here which they use in the Saab and Vauxhall range. The computer display function is not the best but works okay once you have a handle on the buttons. Driving steady on normal roads and in traffic the car was returning an average of 39mpg once on the motorway ths car is a real class ride, low wind noise, and very stable, driving at quite high speed with the cruise control on the car was still returning over 42 mpg which for a new car which was very tight could only get better. I did not like the electric window switch position being in the centre but got used to it after a while, also when you stop you have to select reverse to get the ingnition key out, it is then impossible to move the gear lever as it is looked in until you start again. If you want space, comfort and good mpg the 95 would be a good choice.
Second hand you get a lot of car for your money - but watch those residuals! I got mine at 7 months old, 6k on the clock and £10k less than the new price and this from a Saab dealer. This will soften the blow on the trade in a bit - and I had intended to run the car for a few years. The good points - feels roomy, safe, and comfortable. Great sound system (9 nine speakers and plays mp3 CD-Rs - who needs a disc changer?). Engine is great: I average around 48 mpg, and it can average well over 50 mpg on long motorway journeys if you stick to the speed limit. Acceleration is excellent - all the overtaking power you need in the 40 - 70 mph zone. The bad points: some cheap plastic and rattles let the car down. I have had two replacement clutch master cylinders in 3 months - the connecting rod to the pedal having broken. There’s nothing like being stranded by the side of the road to make you hate your car! Plus I have a sticky rear passenger door that doesn’t always unlock. These breakages and little faults leave me feeling disappointed with the overall quality of the car. Starting to wonder if I should have gone with a Vauxhall. My dealer experience has been great - they are helpful and attentive. The various other Saab’s I have driven - mostly variations on the current 9-3 feel better to drive and better finished as well. The automatic is not to my taste - and is not so economical. So it all comes down to what you value. From the from the front car has a road presence (back end is pretty ugly) it’s not a BMW (which to many people is a plus) and there are many dedicated Saab fans out there. It is an OK car - but I have doubts about long term durability, and this lack of confidence is reflected in the extremely low residual price. You could get a bit of a bargain second hand, but I can’t see any argument for buying new.
Hi all. Just brought the Saab 9.3 Cab new 08 model, having driven / owned the Nissan Silvia, Porche 911, (86, model) Volvo V70 T5, Volvo S80 T6, BMW M3, Mazda RX8, etc etc. Some of the people doing reviews obviously have never driven real cars, for me the Saab Convertible is an excellent car (I only buy top of range so the 2.8 V6 Aero). Real quality car, great options, great service intervals, speed, fuel useage and value for money. It is sad people who buy & do reviews on the lower ranges will always be negative (they can not afford to really). This is a very good car, would recommend if you want a car that can be used in all weathers and enjoyed but also will take the mick out of Ford Foucus RS’s etc but is only serviced 20k miles etc. 25mpg ave but don’t buy like many real cars if you can not afford the true costs, buy a Citreon C3, if that’s your limit. Don’t moan afterwards!!
Got this car without test driving or even seeing based on what I thought of my previous car (Saab 900S) and I wasn’t disappointed. The performance from the 150HP Diesel engine is excellent, especially in the 40 - 100 mph range and is extremely quiet - passengers have looked shocked at the performance and quietness when I tell them its a diesel. At 36,000 miles I replaced front tyres for second time, and rear ones for the first time - now that ain’t bad. Other than that the only ’consumable’ was a litre of oil after 1,000 miles. HOWEVER, the front suspension top bearings both collapsed before the first service, but were replaced under warranty. I was disappointed that Saab refused to replace my rear brake disks which destroyed themselves after about 20k miles, even though they did say it was a common fault!!! Paint finish seems very thin and easy to scratch as well, mine is covered in little scratches from things like an empty cardboard box I put on the roof while opening door, birds feet, cat claws, the washing brush at the local car wash etc. so much so that I have to wash it by hand with a sponge. Maybe we are starting to see the effects of the takeover by GM/Vauxhall as the finish now seems a bit lightweight compared to my previous Saab’s.
Did not think the cost of the service of this car would be so much, but paid £492.77 for 36000 mile service with only oil & filters. Later I spoke to David on service who said I should only have paid £471 at Nidd Vale Motors Harrogate. I am not a very happy person, this is the forth car I have bought from Nidd Vale and will be my last.
Very nice car. Smooth and refined engine and suspension. Motor way muncher! 2.3T engine throws a punch but the interior needs more attention - too many plastics, like my Vectra - can’t tell the difference. Otherwise the car is OK. Mk2 of Saab 9-5 is way over due!!!. Overall rating is 7/10.
In many ways an excellent car for many purposes - fast enough, economical enough but not the best at either of these. Where it does create its own space against competitors is in seat comfort, interior space and control layout, each of which is far superior to the over-engineered run-of-the-mill German choices out there (and I include the latest C and A4 which I have driven extensively and none of which make me want to leave my Saab). Areas of improvement/disappointment: loose small bits of trim but nothing fundamental - tyre wear - looks, although addressed in the ’07 facelift. Overall this car will not let you down and will leave you feeling relaxed and fresh after any journey.
The best bit about the 9-3 is that both my wife and I enjoy driving it. I don’t feel too "girly" in it and it’s not too big for her, yet the boot still takes the weeks shopping either up or down. Love the seats and the roof which operates easily and provides decent noise reduction when up. Easy to drive too. Ours has the convenience pack so remote roof (very posey) and electric seats. That said if we had another we’d definitely go for heated seats and upgrade the stereo as the standard one is a bit rubbish. However what alternative do we have? Only the new A3 and 1 series convertible have proper rag tops but are too small and the CLK is too pricey. These tintops are fine and all the rage but with the roof up they’re just like a normal car and with the roof down there is no boot space plus the extra weight over the rear wheels changes the driving dynamics. Facelift it is then!
This is the fifth Saab I’ve owned, and the first diesel. It does over 40 mpg overall and as much as 55+ on the motorway but I won’t get another diesel - this has confirmed all my prejudices about noisy dirty smelly engines which lack the bite, precision and control of the engine that I’ve had with every other Saab I’ve owned. It’s very comfortable, practical, has an excellent boot, air con system and stereo. It’s quite fast but has horrible turbo lag - put your foot down at the lights and there really is a full second where nothing happens and then you’re propelled forward at a hell of a rate. In petrol form this is probably a damn good car, in diesel it reminds you that while Saab’s are still a sensible and different alternative to the much over-rated Germans they’re not quite as well built or different as they used to be. I also have a 15 year old classic 900 convertible and for all its age it’s still a lot more fun to drive than my 9-3.
Good car to drive, great on motorways. Diesel is great on mileage but a few too many cheap materials used on the interior.
This is my second SAAB, having had a BMW 5 series and a Mercedes C200 in between. Excellent and easy drive, all the equipment you need from leather seats to dual climate control. The chip makes it very quick [when you need it] and the comfort on a long run is excellent. I tried it against thew new 9-3 TTDi, "NO COMPETITION!" I have the all round sport trim, which makes it look a very smart car, when compared with basic trim. Would I buy another one? Having tried the new C class and the 3 series, YES.
I purchased this car from new and its had all its regular servicing by local dealer. Its now done a mere 40000miles and in the last month it was first the Inlet Manifold £500 plus p and l, then the EGR valve £100 etc, then the Generator £300 etc. Whilst it was last in with this I asked if there was anything else and sure enough now that everything thing else had been fixed the clutch was noisy!! I thought about this and having asked a mechanic friend whether it should be looked at he said that if it breaks up you could loose most of an engine so I had it done, £900. To be fair in this complaint I did get 50% goodwill back from SAAB Uk but frankly at such low mileage I had not expected to pay out anything like that. Apparently cambelt is next I was informed after receiving the car back!!
I purchased the 9-3 Vector Sport 18 months ago with 26000 miles on the clock (it now has 56000 miles on it). Since then it has cost me over £2000 in repairs: The water pump failed shredding the timing belt, windsreen wiper motor packed in, the alternator failed. All things considered I would never recommend Saab to anyone. I was a long time Ford driver until I made the change to Saab and I will be changing this car for a Ford within the next few weeks. I would never consder buying or owning anothe Saab, in fact I wouldn’t accept one as a gift! This marque is the worst I’ve ever owned.
Coming from a Peugeot 406, I find that the 9-3 has a lot of roadnoise and the steering is very twitchy and it has a much harder ride than the Pug’ but the handling and superb stopping power far outweighs these trivial matters. Overall, a solid and safe car which has given me no problems over the 7 months that I have had it. Although the servicing was pretty expensive; it only has been serviced every two years although I believe that the later models have to be serviced annually.
I think the 93 convertible is great. I have the 1.8 Vector 56 plate with new dash. I have just got rid of an Audi A4 convertible which was good but I like my Saab better. I think, in looks and drive, it’s far better than the A4 and I think the A4 looks a little old hat compared - that’s my opinion. I have had many cars over the last ten years but Saab are the best by far.
I’ve had this car for just over a month and the jury is still out. After a disaster with an Audi A4 Estate with a very dodgy auto gearbox I struggled to get another diesel auto. It has a nice ’cockpit’ and huge boot and is comfortable. However, the actual drive is not so good. Motorway driving is great and it’s very economical. Driving round Derbyshire up hills and needing accelaration out of bends is a real problem as the car is determined to drop down a gear prematurely. The end result is a surge of power shooting you out of the corner which today on very wet roads, covered in leaves, was not good. The dealership are saying there is nothing wrong but it’s going back this week for another check as it’s still covered by the manufacturers warranty. My brother seems to think this is a throttle problem and not the gearbox, let’s see how we get on. Even though the Audi had a dodgy gearbox it was much smoother to drive. On the upside, the Saab has parking sensors and you can pull the mirrors in and out electronically which is ideal for parking near the school. Giving it a 3 purely based on the drive as the car is at present so that may be a bit harsh. Oh I forgot, the drinks holder is the best part of the car, it’s totally space age. £9k a lot ot pay to hold your capuccino though!
Yes, after almost 4 years with this estate,I have to decide on a replacement in a couple of months. The decision is not too difficult...I Will go for another Saab 93 because it is fast and trouble-free. Mine has 66,000 mile on the clock now but is still pulling like a train! I will probably test drive the ttid in Jan! The reports are good and the new 9-3 now looks even better. Sorry BMW.
A very comfortable ride. As I use mine for mainly motorway driving I have clocked up 91000 miles before having a swirl inlet manifold problem that, having searched dealers for a competitive quote got variations ranging from £960 to £650. The interior starting falling apart after about 26000 miles. I have always been a Saab fan but now the car is nothing more than a Vauxhall Vectra with a Saab badge; the brand has lost its prestige. Residual values are a complete joke my 22,000 pounds car after 3 years is now worth 6000 pounds, that’s if you can get someone to take it off your hands. I have had BMW’s and Audi’s before this 9 5 and was shocked when quoted for a service at 480 pounds, my previous BM’s and Audi serving never cost more than 240 pounds. Dealers have poor customer service levels and the price of everything varies so widely you wonder if they are competing to see who they can rip off the most. AVOID AT ALL COSTS TOTAL RUBBISH
I’m not happy at all. I will never buy another Saab again. I have Saab 9-3 Linear model 2005 88k. Turbo gone, crank shaft making noise and it’s very expensive to repair. Also, I have a Peugeot 406 HDI which has done 159k and never seen a garage apart from the usual service. This has always been very reliable and I feel as though I should have never bought the Saab. I did have a freind who told me not to go for Saab, his words were that this is a Vectra in a Saab badge with a round body and very expensive to maintain and poor reliability. My biggest mistake is not taking his word and went ahead and bought a car that is more of a problem than it’s worth.
Loving it! Excellent performance, good economy, excellent comfort, Can’t believe I have never owned one until now. Great car!
After owning my car for 6 months I can say it has never failed to impress me. I’ve been a bit of a boy racer for 35 years and having owned many decent cars my re mapped 93 tid is a pure take on, whilst always driven within the legal speed limits I must add!
Looks great, nicely put together with some very nice toys in the cabin. My only complaint is the Vectra engine (150) they stuck in it. Very flat and lifeless, definitely needs chipping.
I’ve enjoyed my Saab 93 Convertible. It’s a great car both in looks and performance. I’ve only had one real problem. The roof has recently started leaking where it meets the driver side window. I’m now looking for a new car but I really don’t like the Saab’s new look. I think it’s ugly. I’ll miss the drop top but, I may buy a BMW next. I’d go back to a Saab 93 Convertible in the future, but, only if they changed the design again to a sleeker looking model because it really is a good car.
Test drove it today only gave it a 4 star rating because nothing is perfect. I have had BMW/Mondeo/Audi all top spec but the 9-3 just beats the hell out of them; maybe not in price new but a used car price is very good. As soon as I sat in the car I knew it was something special; drop it from 6th to 4th on overtaking and it does bring a smile to your face. Yes, a little noisy but I am from the old school off driving and like to hear the engine revs. Everyone to there own; BMW owners and the rest will say they hate Saab’s but so did I until I test drove it - admittedly I was only out for 1 hour in it but all the reviews I have read; guys in the trade I have spoken to; and the test drive did it for me. I pick it up on Tuesday. Verdict - don’t slag any car of until you have owned it or test driven it. Well, that’s what I learnt today.
I have had this car since new and love it. My wife wants another as this ones lease runs out soon. Very practical, fast and good mpg (average 33mpg). Had a 9-5 before this and both were faultless. Get one and you won’t be disappointed. The only thing that I have noticed is the idle is a tiny bit lumpy when waiting at the lights. Not bad complaint for three years motoring.
Bought the Saab 9-3 just 3 weeks ago; I’m getting rid of it as it’s awful. Interior feels cheap and nasty, seats are uncomfortable, too much glare from all places the rear window when looking through the rear view mirror and what is that hideous noise when turning corners? It’s none other than the indicator tick noise which is diabolical, stereo has no base to it which is needed to drown out that tick noise. Outside the car looks very nice but miles per gallon are dreadful for a 1.9 diesel. This is one car I’m happy to get shot of, what were you thinking of Saab, you have shattered my dreams from yesteryear as I always liked the look of Saabs, no more though. My next car has already been chosen - it’s a 2002 Jaguar 2.5L X-Type, I needed cheering up after driving this car for 3 long weeks.
Actually it handles great and has plenty of oomph as a diesel. Lovely car when it works. Had a bucket of reliability issues though - I was a VW owner before this and all three cars together were in the garage less than this baby. Possibly an acquired taste - certainly not for everyone - and (in retrospect overpriced). The high-end diesel Mondeos are - sadly - better cars.
A great workhorse. I don’t normally buy new or nearly new cars but this was an exception. 217,000 miles and it has only needed a new wheel bearing, tyres, a number plate light bulb and wiper blades. Still sporting the original exhaust. Leather interior comes up like new. Reading the other reviews it sounds like I have been lucky, but I’m really pleased with the running costs. Fortunately we can avoid dealers prices in Devon as there are great specialists around for servicing. Good value cars if someone else has taken the hit on the depreciation.
Good looking car mpg around 40-42, cam chain engine 125bhp drives very well. I had a problem with the engine warning light but found that the air mass sensor was dirty. A quick clean and all is working well. Had to replace the heater blower motor. Mine seized. Note: make sure all drains in bonnet area are clean and clear.
I’ve had the car four months now and had to replace the turbo but other than that, it seems to be a good strong reliable car.
I’ve had this car nearly 5 years from new. The Hirsch performance upgrade makes this an extremely fast car (limited to 146mph). In recent months I’ve had to have the water pump changed and some replacement front suspension parts, not too bad for a car thats been driven hard for 136,000 miles. The only other fault I’ve had is a windscreen wash sensor. There really is no point buying an Audi or BMW because they’re slower, thirstier and far less comfortable.
Excellent and underated as a new car but quite heavy depreciation makes it even more attractive as a used buy. Effortless and quiet acceleration. Chuckable and very comfortable seating making long journeys easy and pleasurable for driver and passengers. Interior and boot are spacious and unlike many other current car designs, the Saab’s front headroom is not restricted by a heavily sloping roof. My fifth top gear is like an overdrive and enables very good fuel consumption on motorways, yet acceleration is still brisk.
My first Saab and wow - I’m well impressed - I’m used to Impreza’s, GTIs, BMWs, this however is all of them in one package , handling could be improved a tad but with better front suspension and a front strut it would be a top car, better petrol consumption than the others as well, get the silver on with the better alloys. What a head turner!
Very nice and convenient car, all that I expected. So far - 120,000 miles and no unusual problems.
A rough noisy engined car that rolls around on bends, has iffy build quality and no real torque for its size. Trading on past glories it’s probably no surprise Saab went into receivership as whilst their competitors were dramatically improving their cars, Saab chose to carry on claiming that their’s were based on aircraft design!! We bought our Saab when it was about 3 years old (24k on an 02 plate) with the comfort pack and it’s now got 138k on clock. The auto box is flaring and surging all the time, particularly when travelling on bendy/hilly roads and you’re on and off the throttle. Motorway driving is ok, but for what was a £27k car this is just completely unacceptable; I don’t know whether to go for a replacement gearbox or just carry on driving till it grinds to a halt. On the plus side it’s roomy and comfortable particularly on our trips to Scotland and the comfort pack is good. Having said that and given the gearbox problems, I don’t know if the winter mode will be working if we get snow this year! I agree with one of your correspondents who said garages seem to think £450 is reasonable for a service on a 9year old Saab - they’re all chancers! Oh yeah, and the sat nav has been pretty poor as it never seems to recognise postcodes that have been in existence for ages!
After my 900S of 1997 reached around 250000 mostly happy miles, we decided to have a 9-5 estate to get a more family-friendly ride. What a disaster! Not only the 9-5 diesel is noisy, it’s mechanics are extremely poor quality: had to replace EGR-valve, turbo, air-mass sensor, oil-pressure sensor, turbo-sensor, nearly all the turbo tubing, breaking down approximately every 2 months after a problem less first 80000 miles. It keeps starting really badly, even after several days in the garage to solve this problem, on hot days it just won’t start unless it’s towed to it. The dealer has been wonderful so far, but pricey. everytime you think that "this must be about all that can break on a car" you find out there’s even more low-quality GM-parts in this Saab. AVOID under all circumstances!
I have had my 9-5 for 6 years and not had a single problem. extremely reliable and can get 44 MPG on a motorway run. I had the engine re mapped and it is now both more powerful and economical. An excellent family car. 120K miles and runs like a dream- the best second had 2.0 petrol family cat that you can buy!
Test drove one the other day. Handled like a cow and everything about it seemed dated. Will not be getting one, my advice would be to stay away from this one. Got a test drive in a BMW 3-series tomorrow, hoping for better.
Lovely 4 seater convertible with excellent performance, economy & space. Enjoyed 18 months with my Saab. Only gave it back because my car lease expired.
Nice car with a comfortable ride. Lots of space & good specification, but a bit plasticky inside. Not quite as good as some others in this class, but certainly less expensive to buy.
This car looks great but unfortunately the handling does not live up to it’s looks. In order to succeed in this sector the car surely has to have both! The Saab is in a difficult position, it’s obviously not a BMW or Audi beater but likes to think of itself as a step up the motoring ladder from the average rep-mobile. With the launch of the critically acclaimed new Mondeo however i’d say the Saab may just need to have a re-think of it’s priorities!
I’ve only had my Sportwagon for 2 weeks but so far I’m very pleased indeed with my choice of Estate. I’d also looked at the Laguna but decided to settle on this car because I’d heard there are engine problems with the Laguna and the performance of the SportWagon beat it hands down. It’s extremely comfortable to drive and I especially like the dash design. I have noticed some outside noise seeping in when on the motorway but this is only minor.
I recently test drove this model and found it to be a nice car. Looks great, drive was very smooth and comfortable and handling was responsive. The interior was comfortable but there’s a lot of cheap looking plastic in there. The running cost on this car are very competitive to other estate cars out there but the residual value is unfortunately extremely low. Next!
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